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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Xiao-Yan Gong,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;May I have some examples of such structure designed beyond elastic buckling limit. As the elastic critical load, determined by theory and linear FEM is usually lesser than design (actual) load because of imperfections.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Himayat&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 03:34:09 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Himayat Ullah</dc:creator>
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 <title>Its post buckling!</title>
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Elastic buckling may trigger the failure.&amp;nbsp; You can do a post buckling analysis to find out.&amp;nbsp; Keep in mind there are structures in use today that beyond elastic buckling limit.
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Happy analyzing.
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Xiao-Yan Gong, PhD
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 <pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:51:14 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Xiao-Yan Gong</dc:creator>
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 <title>Re: Buckling of thin walled cylindrical shell</title>
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Apart from the aesthetic thing there is a more powerful reason. If the load is larger than the critical load for the elastic buckling and because of the material is elasto-plastic, the following would be the picture:
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elastic buckling --&amp;gt; extremely large deformation --&amp;gt; plastic buckling --&amp;gt; catastrophic collapse
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So, in conclusion the most safest is to consider the elastic buckling as a failure.
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Alejandro A. Ortiz
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 <pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:38:28 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Alejandro A. Ortiz</dc:creator>
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 <title>Yes, I agree that it is</title>
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Yes, I agree that it is considered as a failure and should be avoided. Just think what the final user of the structure would think if the structure is evidently backled even in the elastic range. Certainly, he or she would not be confident about the safety of the structure.
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Alejandro A. Ortiz
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 <pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 04:28:39 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Alejandro A. Ortiz</dc:creator>
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Thanks all for your replies.
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It means that we can design structures for buckling. Where as in buckling,a structure changes its equilibrium configuration and undergoes large deformation, even if it is elastic. Load-Deflection curve is linear upto bifurcation point and becomes nonlinear in the post buckled region. To bring the structure to its original configuration, an external energy is required. It will not recover its pre buckled shape by itself.
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Further ,buckling is usually considered as a failure and i avoided in the design of structures.
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Himayat
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 <pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 03:32:05 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Himayat Ullah</dc:creator>
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 <title>Re: Buckling of thin walled cylindrical shell</title>
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I assume an elasto-plastic material like mild steel and that you have calculated the ciritical load for the actual ratio Do/t and the critical load was lower than the load obtained for the yield stress. Under such circumstances of elastic buckling the shell will remain backled while the load is applied and will recover its original configuration as soon as the load is removed. Because of the material is elasto-plastic the latter is independent of whether buckling has occurred or not.
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Alejandro A. Ortiz
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 <pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 18:44:12 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Alejandro A. Ortiz</dc:creator>
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 <title>Elastic buckling?</title>
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&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;I am not sure. If the shell only undergoes the elastic buckling, it will recover to its original shape.&lt;/font&gt;
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&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;Ying Li Department of Engineering Mechanics Tsinghua University Beijing, 100084, P. R. CHINA &lt;/font&gt;
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 <pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 02:38:37 -0400</pubDate>
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I am analyzing a steel thin walled cylidrical shell subjected to axial compression against buckling.I performed both eigen value linear and nonlinear buckling analyses using ANSYS.The buckling load is less than the material yield limit and is therefore elastic buckling.
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One of my colleague argues that the shell will regain its original shape after the buckling load is removed,as its is elastic buckling.My plea is that the shell has passed the limit point (buckling load) and it is global buckling and no shape recovery will occur after the load removal.
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Your advice is requested in the design of this structure.
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Thanks in advance
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 <pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 00:28:24 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Himayat Ullah</dc:creator>
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