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Dear All,

 I am doing modal analysis using ANSYS.

 1) why every one is particularly taking first six modes of vibration for their results?. Is the probability of occurance of the first six exitation is very higher?

2) But how the frequencies for first 6modes are in ascending order ?

3) Just for verification, Assume ,

   a) the earthquake frequency is around 22 to 25Hz.

   b)Obtained natural modes for a system 5,7,8.8,9,10.2.

   c) so here I need to extend my analysis to furter modes near to 22 to 25hz.

   d) If I got my 150th mode frequency as 23 hz, then it means that the probability of this 150th mode is 150 time lesser than my first mode occurance, so I dont need to consider this mode? or vicecersa?

Thanks a lot in advance.

 

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Dear colleague,

 I thing that you should fix your attention in not to the probability of coinciding the frequence of the earthquake and the natural form, but to the great difference between the maximal amplitudes of the natural forms - the higher the form is, the smaller its amplitudes are. Thus the probability of rising of unbearable cracks strongly reduces. That's the reason of not counting the higher forms in modal analysis.

 

Dear prksh,The correct procedure to analyse your structure against earthquake (or other dynamic loading) is to obtain firstly the (Fast) Fourier spectrum of the earthquake under consideration. Each earthquake time-history is virtually the sum of a specific number of harmonic excitations (usually sines), each of which has selected amplitude and frequency, so that if all these excitations are summed together, they will produce the actual time history of the imposed earthquake. In the Fourier spectrum one can see for a specific frequency, the amplitude that corresponds to the respective harmonic component. Higher amplitude means higher distress for the structure, so you have to select those frequency ranges in which the amplitudes are high and to ignore the remaining spectrum. Assume that the selected frequency spectrum is [a,b].

To proceed, you have to calculate those eigenfrequencies of the structure, which fall into the above range, namely if the inequality a<fn<b is valid, in which fn is the nth eigenfrequency of your structure. Then you have to impose a dynamic loading which consists of only the sines corresponding to eigenfrequencies fn. The final amplitude of the motion of the structure will result from a suitable summing method (for this see Chopra or Clough & Penzien "Dynamics of structures" (two books with the same title...)). You can use modal analysis which is more accurate, or special analysis procedures (such as the static correction method or the mode acceleration superposition method).

Remember, all the above are correct provided that linear elasticity is considered. If this is not true, then the calculation has to be done in different ways. Finally, a major factor is the kind of damping you use.

I hope I helped you a bit, but if you have any question you can contact me via email: gpapazafeiropoulos@yahoo.gr

 

Thanks for the information.
Rpetrova, I said only the frequency is in ascending order. Not their amplitudes. Amplitudes of nth frequency is arbitary, it may be lower or higher than (n-1)th frequency.

Papazafieropoulos, this is to make sure I got your explaination correctly,
You mean that I need to convert my time domain dynamic loading to frequency domain using FFT, and then take the frequency corresponds to higher amplitudes(say f(a,b)).
Then I can select the natural frequency of my structure that falls in between f(a,b). then proceed to dyanmic analysis with those f(a,b).

If possible send some information regarding Spectrum analysis,particularly "Dynamic Design Analysis Method (DDAM)"

Thanks

Dear guys, 

 Any other ideas.? (probability of occurance of first 6 modes.) 

Thanks.

 

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